I also believe it was edited out of respect for Amy. And from what I read, no one has a degree in this field or even a related one. By far the best written article I have read in a long time. If I cared about bears that much. I never forgot it since I first read it over 15 yrs ago - everything you wrote, in such detail, is sanely deductive, intelligent, thoughtful & totally haunting. So dont get cocky & dont be naive & think that will never happen to me. 2006, Email correspondence. I wonder, is it possible that Amie wasn't killed by the bear? Fulton, Willy. (Ellis 2003, pg 4), Investigators combing the nearby area around the campsite discover what was left of Timothy Treadwell. Again, such a great read! Egli Air (Helicopter) Haul. Timothy clearly wanted to be portrade as a misunderstood conservationist. Rest Easy Tim & Amie. I hate reading, I have two college degrees and am very educated and extremely smart however Im just now reader. Also love the light touches of humor here & there, "at a good clip", haha!, also NOT romanticizing this poor deluded child-man, who simply exchanged one addiction for another and really did far more harm than any good, & had clearly degenerated at the end, basically guaranteeing his horrid death (and poor Aimee's). Extremely rare, but it has happened. Seen a lot of Tim bashing here. In the last few minutes of the film, we see Tim walking across the tidal flats with two red fox following close behind. If there are any of you who think the same way that Timothy Treadwell did and you want to go to Alaska and save grizzly bears, learn from Treadwells mistakes , because if you dont, you could very well meet the same horrifying fate. I never arrested him for drunk driving.We all do stupid things at times. I have no opinion on Treadwell as a person, or his character, I know he loved Grizzly bears and wanted to protect them, but after all is said and done, when Treadwell stepped foot into grizzly territory, it was only a matter of time before he would meet his fate. No Willy. I just watched the second documentary (Herzog's), and it was quite disturbing. Willy then states that he turned around and headed back down the path through the thick alders at a pretty good clip and just as he gets to the plane, he turns and spots a pretty nasty looking bear that he had seen on earlier flights, sneaking slowly down the trail with its head down. I truly believe if there were more Treadwells this world would have been a better place for humans and animals. Hechtel, John. Sunao Adelstein: Who Is she? Superintendent of Katmai National Park. Sorry for my poor English but I disagree about the audio tape that is in YouTube. In this footage, Amie is obviously nervous and scared as she leans away from the bear. Well after bashing tim a bit i'll say i love the guy see alot of myself in him. Alaska is tough living bears are tough tim wasnt needing the comforts of malibu. I am sure a select few know who wrote the above piece. I agree that after his death he is to blame for the two subsequent bear's deaths but it seems that something is going on here that raises questions. You will hear a thousand opinions on gun forums.If you do the basic math, the physcis dictates the shorgun is a poor man's elephant gun. 2003 Scene Investigator. Very informative and interesting! It's a really a shame. Genuinely concerned for your well-being. Bravo and I'd love to read other things you've written/researched. It could be as simple as; Being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I doubt he would have wanted to see a bear killed but his actions alone created that chaos. I've seen the movie "Grizzly Man" and enjoyed it. A truly BRAVE Man is one who faces Danger that MUST be Faced, and does so with Courage, overcoming his natural Fear, to do a job that must be done. However, had we met, Tim and I would have no doubt had some heated discussions about how I thought he was doing more harm than good with his behavior in Alaska. I watched the grizzly man documentary and within the first few minutes, I was sure this young man was battling with some mental deficiencies. But we've experienced a slow process of domestication via civilization, something that animals like bears and big cats have not. Maybe we should be focusing more on trying to unravel the mysteries of what psychological damage happened to Timothy earlier in his life to make him react by living with and baby-talking to 1000 grizzly bears? I do remember one time in late fall, my uncle taking the trash cans out to the road in the back of the truck armed with a shotgun as the bears had a food shortage and would attack trash cans. On another occasion he was ordered by park rangers to remove a prohibited portable generator. This latter scenario can not be confirmed because thankfully for us the video tape ran out before it occurred.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-mobile-leaderboard-1','ezslot_12',123,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-mobile-leaderboard-1-0'); This incident occurred due to An unconventional person with unconventional behavior toward bears, camped in the middle of a very dangerous situation.. I hope that you use it! Just recently I was given access to the first 2 minutes of the 6 minute tape. The State Theatre Votes: 14 25.9% Run Like Hell! Wildlife biologist, Alaska Department of Fish and Game. However, it is unknown whether bear #141 had ever gotten into or received some sort of food reward from humans. Do not approach them. Apparently, Tim never read the data on nighttime bear attacks. What I do and would do during hypomania has me seeing this as it is. After a few minutes, I decided to get up and walk across the meadow, only to have the whole family follow along beside me. The documentary filmmaker Grizzly Man made a film on Treadwells life and death in 2005. Herrero, Dr. Stephen. It is not benefiting from death, but rather valuing life. Thank you for putting so much thought and effort into this piece. I learn that. Screw them. Who knows how it died. 2003, AP Wire Interview. McMillion, Scott. Ignoring and shunning the more aggressive and confrontational side of humanity and falling back on a kind of Disney perception of right and wrong. Saying that, I feel that Timothy was always a submissive person by nature, a 'patsy' as he says. Do nothing but stay away from the bears. Tim said he was learning to be around bears, but that he wanted to get out of there right away because the bears had been in his camp. He was no warrior. Did Treadwell have a special connection with the bears? How ridiculous. Cambodia? Fish and Wildlife agents. Sunday night, and not during the day while Tim was normally out filming and interacting with bears. You don't skimp on the tough issues either. Amie may have found the adventure of traveling to Alaska romantic and exciting and may have even found spending time with a quirky guy like Tim to be entertaining and a refreshing escape from her work-a-day life in the city, no doubt filled with dangers and freaks of its own, but the truth and reality is Tim did not kill Amie. Finally, the Grizzly Man, an eight-episode documentary that became a television series on August 29, 2008, brought an end to the troubling day. I think we all do. I thought borderline schizophrenia and a narcissistic disorder. I think in his mind he was doing things for the greater good so his intent was pure. In front of this main tent was a large mound of mud, grass and sticks, five feet long, 4 foot wide, and 3 feet high. Please visit our friends at AmericanBetting.org for a guide on legalized sports betting in the US. "But there was really no where to run.if she'd curled up in the tent and remained silent, the stench of the fag's carcass would have drawn other bears.Complete Cali airheadsnature loves us?no, nature is only the strong survive.I find it curious that the author cites Aimee as TT's lover?that cat was only a few clicks away from wearing a dress.lol. Timothy Treadwell AKA Timothy William Dexter Born: 29-Apr-1957 Birthplace: Long Island, NY Died: 5-Oct-2003 Location of death: Katmai National Park, AK Cause of death: Accident - Misc Remains: Cremated, Portions scattered in Katmai National Park, AK Gender: Male Race or Ethnicity: White Sexual orientation: Straight Occupation: Naturalist I found it very interesting and very well explained. I spent five years studying wolves in the wild in Canada in the 1980's. I would wager he was tormented w sexuality issues, and couldn't come out of the closet. Lots of Alaskans would like to get a bear in their rifle sights; Treadwell sang and read to the grizzlies on the rugged Katmai Coast, and gave them names like Thumper, Mr. Chocolate, and Squiggle. Now my take. And YES, I'm LOL'ing at him,because he is absolutely worthy and deserving of ridicule. Habituating bears to the presence of man only increases the chance that harm will someday come to the bear, or another man.. lets respect the bears by leaving them their space & staying in our own. Likewise, in a 1994 interview when he was asked whether he was ever afraid of the bears, he responded with saying They wouldnt hurt me. Unconventional? What in the hell was Treadwell thinking. He lived off canned packed food while his bears foraged to stay alive wanted people to believe he was alone when he was not. There have been quite a few comments made about Tim being responsible for Amies death, I have actually struggled with this for several years now. This was a good read. I've even known humans to get very angry when they are hungry, including myself. I originally had thoughts of turning this into a book, but after much thought and consideration, I decided that in doing so, I would be profiting from someones death. Tim Treadwell was born in New York in 1957 as Timothy Dexter, the third of five children. Amie turns the camera on and asks if the bear is still out there. Amie and Tim were in the tent on Sunday night chatting about that days filming and returning to the world. But fail to study, learn,about their ways, Behaviors,thats a must before Confronting the objects. 504pp. The tape begins with Treadwell yelling that he is being attacked. Then there was the way Treadwell acted around bears. I watched the doc. I wish he took the rifle which was offered to him by the guy who dropped off supplies via sea plane. I have recently watched Grizzly Man at the request of a friend who found I was entertaining black bears in my yard, granted it is really far out in the middle of nowhere, but i do have distant neighbors. He was an old bear and Tim included footage of Quincy in the Grizzle Man Diaries, and Tim said they were great friends, which was sad, considering that Quincy was the old Grizzly bear that was identified by Jans as Bear 141, which had a lot of human flesh inside its stomach after the rangers killed it. (Liggett 2003), Liggett applauded the fact that Treadwell was winning fans for the bears, and was being more careful to warn people not to attempt what he did, but she and other park officials were afraid that one swipe of a paw would undo all that and result in a frenzy of stories about fearsome, people-eating grizzlies. Also, with this article penned by "Administrator" this limits the help you can be for those of us who wish to continue to learn more about (and learn from) this sad event. It is possible that this incident would have occurred no matter what precautions Tim and Amie might have taken. These animals are the mostpowerful land predictor known to exist. Documented video shot by Tim of him feeding the fox has been uncovered. I know the bear was the one known as Quincy the Bear by Tim. Easy to see. Self-styled bear expert Timothy Treadwell and innocent victim Amie Huguenard died in the jaws of an Alaskan bear. There are no highways or skyscrapers in the world of the bear- but there are boundaries. As I reported above in my investigation the bear is nearly silent. The photographs of Amie Huguenards and Timothy Treadwells autopsies were pretty graphic and have not been made public. (Treadwell 2003), On Sunday October 5, 2003, sometime between 11:00 am and 12:00 pm, Tim and Amie make a satellite phone call to Jewel Palovak, program director of Grizzly People, and there was apparently no problem at that time. The grizzly bear symbolizes wilderness and a simpler time. You appreciate nature and love it while respecting the fact that animals will always be just that . His drinking and acting out by "bashing" a car indicates such. Cute doesn't mean that it won't cause you pain. The chilling final moments of Timothy and his girlfriend were captured on tape as they were mauled to death by a brown bear. Polar bears will become extinct if we fail to act. God rest his soul and his girlfriend too. (AP Wire 2003, Fulton 2004). After learning a little about Treadwell, I thought what one word best describes him. He was incredibly lucky for 13 years and his luck ran out due to his reckless behavior. 217pp. I know, Ive experienced it myself and I have seen folks give up high paying jobs just to be able to do it. Up until that point, the bear had probably been sizing Tim up and making a judgment of threat level. Tim got what he deserved. Why did the bear's preditory instinct never take over and why is this owner still given two more cubs to rear and train while Treadwell is heavily criticized for doing far less harm, it seems WHILE he is alive. But keep in mind, Amie was a smart girl, she was a physicians assistant after all, no small feat. 2003, Scene Investigatorif(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'yellowstone_bearman_com-portrait-2','ezslot_22',134,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-yellowstone_bearman_com-portrait-2-0'); We thank our friends at GPSTS.org for supporting us. This guy just annoys me. 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